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Random Posts on the Art of Giving and Sharing May 8, 2016

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Cut and paste from my debate with Sharad on FB on this subject.

Sharad: Power is something which is most difficult thing to give up, be it money power, physical power, power of position or power one has acquired in any other form. We pretend not to use that but we never give up and lend up using the same whenever we feel or gets scared that someone else is taking away that power from us even though that may not be the situation.

Simar: I disagree with you, I think it is not about power, but it is about “Art of Giving” – if you are into giving, you would “give” everything purposefully and in a process oriented manner. If you are not into “giving” you’ve a “possession” mindset and fundamentally flawed DNA, you won’t be able to just do it, you would’ve to work very hard to achieve the same. There is a lot which has been written in our scriptures about “Giving”, whether it is power or it is money, or it is knowledge. There are imperfections and shortcomings. Raja Dashrat had when he went ahead and gave three boons and boom it was when one of his wife Kaitki wanted the same to be honored. Moral, never “Give” without thinking what it can be. We all know about Dronacharya and his fee for giving, that is yet another example of “mis-giving”. Every day around us we see hundreds of such failed attempts at giving. Giving doesn’t work, if it doesn’t come from within. I believe all parents should initiate their kids and keep encouraging them to learn and earn to Give. Thank you smile emoticon

Sharad: Sir you are trying to correlate the two things which are not even remotely connected. You may disagree with me but your disagreement should not be supported by something which doesn’t hold good in that context. As far as giving is also concerned, first of all we should come out of that notion that we give anything to anyone as we never give but God get us to give to the person his due share. Further there is one more saying that even your right hand shouldn’t be aware of what your left hand is sharing not giving. Thirdly there is no art of giving but there should be an art of sharing as giving in itself is a wrong word which reflects some sort of proud feeling. Anything which we do with a feeling of proud can’t be a right reflection. Further Raja Dashrat, Dhronacharya, Pitamaha Bhishm were all narrow minded people who always cared for themselves and their close one ignoring the welfare of other people at large. So they have not given anything to the society. There is no failed attempt of giving. You are just sharing what is due to them. How they are utilizing the same it’s their prerogative, thought or karma. I believe that all Parents should coined the word sharing in the minds of their kids and encourage them to share as giving word itself makes you feel proud or superior or more capable of the person you are giving.

Simar: I am not trying to correlate anything, they are related. My disagreement has concrete facts built in. To me there is no Mr. God sitting up there, God is in the deed and it is in your deeds. it is not Mr. god who tells us what to do, it is our soul with its leanings and learning which guides us in how we conduct our life. Sharing happens when you give, you have to give to share, without your giving how can you share, come on Sharad. LoL. Yes, Art of Sharing is a good thought too and yes Art of Sharing is about keeping some of it with you. Art of giving is keeping nothing of that with you. You have one slice of bread, you break it in two, you share. You have a 100 Rupee note, you ‘give” in toto you give. There is a fine line on how many slices of bread does one have and how many Rs 100 notes one has, but giving and sharing work in tandem. I don’t think talking about mythology, Dashrat did not give anything – I think he did, he did give his three wives to be impregnated by Vishnu for the larger good of the world, because, it was vishnu’s human avatar which could have only killed Ravana and other Rakshas. So he did give. Dhronacharya did give knowledge and Bhishm Pitamha did give his life to celibacy and soul to “kidnapping” Gandhari to be married to his nephew. So they all gave. I agree Sharing is important to be taught, I am glad we were brought up on that thought and we have tried to bring Mishti on that too.

Sharad: Sir don’t try to bring the discussion to a narrow end. There is no Mr God sitting outside but definitely there is some Mr X sitting somewhere in the form of energy and a reflection of that energy sits inside in the form of soul. You are again trying to deviate from the broader objective of the word sharing. Giving comes when you give something to someone out of your own share but as per me whatever you are giving was not yours at point of time. This was the share of that person which was kept with you in your custody by so called Mr X, which you have now given or shared with that person. In the beginning you have mentioned that there is no God and towards the end you are talking about Lord Vishnu and all those. Sir be clear in your thoughts. It’s good that you are brought up with the thought of sharing and you are upbringing Mishti with the same thought. Again I would mention here that it should be a thought with all of us on continuos basis and not as and when we feel so.

Simar: Sir Ji, I am very clear in my thoughts. I am sure there is no Mr. god and no Mr. X. And as for reference to Lord Vishnu, please read the word mythology before sharing the thought. It was in continuation with that these three individuals didn’t give anything, so I was telling you what i thought about it smile emoticon We all get mesmerized by coincidences, yes sometimes they are as mystical as they are magical, but then there is no Mr X or Mr God getting that going. I also love to say, it was ordained while hugging a friend I meet suddenly and am mightily pleased. That is said as a life extender and conversation extender, it is not said in reference to MR God or Mr. X. Accepting presence of Mr God and Mr. X are humbling words, they are like having pain killers, putting responsibility of something gone wrong or right moderates its impact. I agree giving and sharing have to be in your conscious mind always. You must give/ share as and when you identify/encounter a need and it should be part of your “dincharya”/ daily routine, not that – one fine day I will share and give, that is ridiculous.

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